Is it possible to do proper outlining?

[juergen]

<nobodo>
In spite of that, competitive software is evolving and moving past the currently stagnant UR in many ways. But to propose that users should be willing to donate money in the hopes that a seemingly disenchanted developer would suddenly become inspired to do large amounts of new development is purely cabaret.
</nobodo>

I am using various outliners for many years now, supported and supporting some projects and can only second the posts of Nobodo.

It would be nice to read something with content from Kinook. Is it time to move on from here or is it worth it to wait ? It might be time to show some official commitment to keep people on board.