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Old 08-11-2011, 03:48 PM
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See Tools | Options | Trees (More) | Hoist tree when locking tab title or going to a locked item.
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Old 08-11-2011, 10:26 PM
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See Tools | Options | Trees (More) | Hoist tree when locking tab title or going to a locked item.
http://www.kinook.com/UltraRecall/Ma...viordialog.htm
Yeah, I had passed over that option a hundred times before not understanding how it could be useful. The explanation that $bill gave made me realize that you can have different portions of the tree visible in different tabs, which essentially gives you different trees in different tabs. Prior to that I just thought that when you hoisted, the same hoist was there for all tabs, so I never really bothered with it because I didn't see the purpose. I thought there was only one view of the tree no matter what you did with the tabs, so never really used hoisting much and never really used multiple tabs much because they all tied to the same tree so I didn't see much purpose.

The simple explanation of how hoisting and locked tabs were used together made it click in my head. I had read the help page for the Tree (More) Options many times, and that never made it click. Wow, this is such a useful thing it should be in a video on the main description page for UR.

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Old 08-12-2011, 09:29 AM
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It would be great if things like the 'hoist-and-lock' were more 'in your face' for new users of UR, so as soon as they started using the product they immediately saw great features like that.

I think there are a lot of users of UR that are very entrenched in how outliners work, so to them things like hoisting and locking might immediately make sense. Then there are probably plenty of users like me who really don't have a lot of outliner experience and are now using them to get their lives better organized. Up until yesterday, to me a tab in UR was a view of a single note. Then came a simple explanation of use and suddenly a tab was not a view of a single note, but instead a specialized view into the tree.

It makes me wonder how many other revelations there are waiting to be seen that will again be huge productivity boosts. I've gone through the help file many times, so know its contents pretty well. The help file gives basic purpose for each individual item in the app (clicking x will do y), but doesn't really explain how or why. Now I need to scour this forum and any referenced videos, etc. to see what else is lying just under the surface.

Thanks for a great product, now on with the quest to find out how to really use it to its potential,
Mark.

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Old 08-12-2011, 06:33 PM
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Kinook, aren't you getting tired of hearing UR users -- especially new ones -- saying things such as, "Wow, UR has so many useful but virtually hidden features!" Or, "Gee, I tried to read UR's apparently programmer-centered 'help' file to find the answer to my question, but got lost in all those tedious hyperlinks." Or, "Gosh, it would be nice if there were more user-friendly videos detailing in understandable, step-by-step English all of UR's neat features (if you want to do X, first click on Y, then click on Z, and viola!)...," etc.

UR needs 1) a helpful help file, 2) non-flashy, non-Google-type videos (e.g., Google's absurd and totally useless "Buzz" videos), 3) a global, multi-database search function. Is this too much to ask?
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:59 AM
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UR needs 1) a helpful help file, 2) non-flashy, non-Google-type videos (e.g., Google's absurd and totally useless "Buzz" videos), 3) a global, multi-database search function. Is this too much to ask?
I agree on on 3 of these, though in fairness to Kinook, #1 and #3 are already in the roadmap. http://kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=3204

Were it up to me - it so rarely is - the multibase search would be significantly higher on the list. But it is there.

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