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quant & janrif,
We all embrace and uphold the essence of democracy, especially the freedom of speech. Each strenuously advocates his own belief and view with utmost faith and sincerity. Both are neither questionable nor frivolous. Correct me if I err. To be honest, both speak for the voices inside other UR users' heart as well, including myself. And both are my respectable UR gurus. As such, given the indisputable fact both have solved innumerous UR issues with immense wisdom previously, without a doubt, I trust both will settle the different views with a pleasant ending. Just my 2 cents.
Armstrong
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