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TimP 03-02-2008 03:40 PM

Me again - this time I'm trying to import PDFs
 
Seems simple enough. Use the import function and expect a PDF to be stored in UR and displayed like the original file when you click on the item in the explorer tree.

Well, when I do the import, the item is not stored as a binary copy of the original pdf but the text is taken from the pdf and put into the internal document. The result is that all the formatting is gone when you view the document by clicking on the corresponding explorer tree node. No matter how I do, as individual files or as a folder full, PDFs are mangled into raw text.

However, when I just drag-and-drop a pdf into a text item, thus creating a link to the external pdf, clicking on the resultant link causes display of a beautifully formatted pdf inside the UR detail panel.

I figure I have to be doing something wrong here. Web pages work like a charm, storing internally and rendering beautifully. I even tried viewing the PDF in Firefox and clicking the import button the UR created. Same results - formatting gone. I'd like to have my numerous PDFs showing as explorer tree items instead of having to open a text-type item and clicking on the contained links to get a pretty PDF displayed. And it would be awesome to have them stored in UR instead of hanging around in nearby folders.

Tim

quant 03-02-2008 05:08 PM

add .pdf in the setting -> browser -> file extensions to display ... if you want to see pdf files internally

if you want to edit/view externally (not seeing the unformatted pdf text), add .pdf to setting -> documents -> file extensions to edit/view externally

The same applies to your other post about doc/rtf files ...

TimP 03-02-2008 09:32 PM

Hmmm. I looked around for such options, but I thought I was already using some kind of internal viewer - after all, I was viewing the messed up PDFs internally. Well, it works like a champ and it's as easy as I figured it should be. Thank you for your help.

I'm becoming a believer. UR is really one hell of a product. I've been using Treepad for over six years now, and had dabbled with UR a couple of years ago. This version 3 has definitely crossed the "indispensable" line for me. I already use it for organizing graduate social science research references and authoring reports, managing nasty piles of technical documentation in software product R&D, managing contacts in a couple of different work environments. I created several custom templates and forms for attributing the complex information I'm gathering and managing. Adopting it has been a little tricky at times (hence my pleas for assistance) but the rewards are huge.

It's time for another major step though. If it was possible to publish UR databases, in whole or in part, and even permit outsiders to drop comments into published presentations, UR would have to be classed as a drug.

kinook 03-03-2008 05:48 AM

Looks like you've already got it working, but if no viewer is configured for a given document type (the default for PDF since not all users have one) but UR is able to extract text from the document, 'Tools | Options | Editor | Show item text for documents with no viewer' is checked, and the extension is not included at 'Tools | Options | Documents | File extensions to edit/view externally,' UR will display the unformatted document text in the details pane. See here for more details:
http://www.kinook.com/UR/Manual/internaloleedit.htm
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthre...?threadid=2430


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