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Cris Tontchev 03-17-2007 03:01 AM

View Office 2007 in Vista
 
Hello

I am having a hard time configuring UR to display Office 2007 internally under Vista Ultimate. I have read and tried all the suggestions in this forum, but the office 2007 Keeps opening in the external applications. Probably, I am doing something wrong, but I just can't figure it out by myself.

Please, could you help me out?

Cris Tontchev 03-18-2007 11:58 AM

Anyone????

quant 03-18-2007 06:57 PM

which office application are you referring to? word, excel, ... ?

I use 2003 and works no problem. Go to option setting, then to "Browser'", and add extension to the "file extension to display in the internal browser view". For example, if you want to view excel files internally, just add ".xls", so that the line reads:
.html;.htm;.mht;.ico;.xls

hope it helps ...

Cris Tontchev 03-18-2007 10:09 PM

Thanks for answering my post.

I would like to see word 2007, excel 2007, and visio 2007.

I did add the browser and documents extensions, including the xml and zip (as per manual) but still nothing.

There is another post about modify to "open in the same browser" in windows file extensions, but in Vista I could not find where is the advanced file extensions.

quant 03-19-2007 05:48 AM

maybe someone who has Vista installed can comment on your problem, I don't plan to install Vista, EVER (I'm already experimenting with Fedora 6, http://fedora.redhat.com/):

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-074.htm
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=882
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12..._drm_analysis/

eno 03-19-2007 08:21 AM

I run word 2000 and excel Ok

Quant - I like the bit in the GRC link that sugests by making vista too secure (going over the Top) they are actually making it easier for certain types of attack.

And by making HD content too protected, devices that are not in compliance wont work with vista (sounds like big brother to me)

Sorry for being off topic but already microsofts data execution prevention (DEP) has affected software use on my computer (Windows XP) to the point I think I will disable it compleatly. I have other software that does the job and that I can control.

kinook 03-19-2007 11:55 AM

It seems that MS decided to remove the 'File Types' Explorer feature in Vista: http://shellrevealed.com/blogs/shell...n-Windows.aspx

And Office 2007 default settings are to not browse in same window, so you'll have to manually munge the registry to get this configured properly on Vista+Office 2007.

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/Sho...iteID=1&mode=1

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927009

Cris Tontchev 03-19-2007 05:52 PM

Hi there
Great News!

I went through these 2 articles and carefuly changed the registry. Now, UR is displaying office 2007 files internally. I am very pleased!

There is one slight problem, UR is showing a window with the message: application is busy and I should switch or try again. I have WebResearch software and I am not having this message displaying there when viewing word 2007 or excel 2007 internally.

Please, advise.

Again, thank you!

Cris Tontchev 03-19-2007 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quant
maybe someone who has Vista installed can comment on your problem, I don't plan to install Vista, EVER (I'm already experimenting with Fedora 6, http://fedora.redhat.com/):

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html
http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-074.htm
http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/?p=882
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12..._drm_analysis/

I have to say that I am very happy with Windows Vista in terms of perfomance, easy access of files, and off course the eye-candy thing.

My backgound is not computer sciences, so I can't make any technical comparissons, but as a end-user I can feel and say the difference while using my unit. Am I am really loving Vista!

quant 03-19-2007 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cris Tontchev
I have to say that I am very happy with Windows Vista in terms of perfomance
have you tried any other operating system running on the same hardware? certainly not, cause only then you'd see what's Vista performance.


Quote:

Originally posted by Cris Tontchev
My backgound is not computer sciences, so I can't make any technical comparissons, but as a end-user I can feel and say the difference while using my unit. Am I am really loving Vista!
Maybe it's nicer (at what performance cost), but in all other aspects, it's a big looser. Play some video, music, and soon you'll see among the processes one that takes a lot of resources, just for the big brother to check whether you are not watching some protected content. This itself is easy for the attackers to make your system completely unstable, just by changing some tilt bit. Video cards will have to have some "black box" inside them, making them more expensive, and impossible to write free drivers for them. I'm not going into details, everything is in the links mentioned above. Am I going to support company that from the beginning assumes I'm thief, upgrade product that is slower and less stable than the previous version (XP), and imposes unnecessary expenses on the whole market of video cards because Hollywood decided to? I wish people would ask sth similar before spending money on Vista and on upgrading their system because Vista demands it.

Cris Tontchev 03-19-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quant
[B]have you tried any other operating system running on the same hardware? certainly not, cause only then you'd see what's Vista performance.

[B]
Yes, in this tabletPC I had the Windows tablet PC 2005 edition. Thus, as I stated I can say the difference while using this notebook. It had an increase in performance and my software open faster.


[QUOTE]Maybe it's nicer (at what performance cost), but in all other aspects, it's a big looser. Play some video, music, and soon you'll see among the processes one that takes a lot of resources, just for the big brother to check whether you are not watching some protected content. [QUOTE]

This is bad for us end-users, but, in the other hand, it will protect somebody else rights. I am not saying that I agree with that, but this kind of issue is not causing me any problem. Neither in performance, because I usually have 6 or 7 applications open at the same time and I do not listen to music or watch video when I am working; neither in pleasure of have a nice Media Center.

kinook 03-20-2007 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cris Tontchev
There is one slight problem, UR is showing a window with the message: application is busy and I should switch or try again. I have WebResearch software and I am not having this message displaying there when viewing word 2007 or excel 2007 internally.
That dialog is actually displayed by IE (embedded within UR and what actual hosts Word, Excel, etc.) if the application does not respond in a timely manner.
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthre...?threadid=1758

I did see this when testing Vista+Office 2007 in a Virtual PC, but would have expected it to be fast enough to avoid that when running on the PC hardware. Dismissing the dialog did cause Windows/IE/Word to function normally after it had completed loading.

There may be a way to increase the timeout before that dialog gets displayed (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240809), which we'll add to our list to investigate.

Cris Tontchev 03-21-2007 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kinook
That dialog is actually displayed by IE (embedded within UR and what actual hosts Word, Excel, etc.) if the application does not respond in a timely manner.
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthre...?threadid=1758

I did see this when testing Vista+Office 2007 in a Virtual PC, but would have expected it to be fast enough to avoid that when running on the PC hardware. Dismissing the dialog did cause Windows/IE/Word to function normally after it had completed loading.

There may be a way to increase the timeout before that dialog gets displayed (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/240809), which we'll add to our list to investigate.

Other time out I have noticed is happenning with large PDF files. I have hundreds of ebooks in PDF format that range from 500 to 1300 pages and when I choose one of those large PDF it is taking a long time for it to display in UR. I even have a window message saying "creating item temporary file - Please, wait...."

Is it happening because those PDF are too large for UR? or it has something to do with vista/IE7 ?

kinook 03-21-2007 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cris Tontchev
Other time out I have noticed is happenning with large PDF files. I have hundreds of ebooks in PDF format that range from 500 to 1300 pages and when I choose one of those large PDF it is taking a long time for it to display in UR. I even have a window message saying "creating item temporary file - Please, wait...."

Is it happening because those PDF are too large for UR? or it has something to do with vista/IE7 ?

That is a different dialog, which may be displayed by UR while creating the temporary copy of a large stored document (so that the operation can be cancelled by the user if desired). One way to avoid this would be to import the item linked rather than stored (so that it can be opened directly from the file system rather than creating a temporary copy).

MikeH 03-21-2007 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cris Tontchev
Anyone????
I'm not sure if this helps, but under XP, you'd have to go to file types and hit the 'Advanced' button and place a check next to 'Browse in Same Window'.

I haven't worked with Vista yet, but I run Office 2007 in UR 3 and everything displays internally from Word to Project. Is there a similar option in Vista?

If we could get DO to display internally or have UR display inside UR, we'd be pretty near perfection!

MikeH


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